Radclyffe Talks Surgery, Books and Goats

Multi-Awarding Winning Author, Publisher and Former Surgeon Radclyffe talks Surgery, Books and Goats on this episode of Seize the Day Podcast with Natalie Miller-Snell.

When I started this podcasting journey, I wanted to share the insights I have learned throughout my life and where possible, support individuals to Seize the Day; grab the opportunities and find the courage to do so.  I also wanted to celebrate women leaders, trailblazers and those individuals who are paving the way.  So I am delighted that Radclyffe joins me on todays show.

Radclyffe talks to me about how it all began.  From her surgery days, to writing romantic novels, starting Bold Stroke Books and her recent RWA Trailblazer award.  She has some fabulous insights which she shares and some great ‘Seize the Day’ moments.

I hope you enjoy the show!

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[Music] you are listening to seize the day with Natalie Miller-Snell during these podcasts we’ll be exploring all of the different opportunities that we get to see the day on a daily basis and what tools and what changes we can make in order to grab those goals are you ready to make change hello hello hello podcast lovers how are you all it’s Thursday I’m Natalie and you are listening to seize the day now I have an enormous treat for you today I’ve got a guess on who’s pretty epic she’s a legend and she’s got an accolade list that is outstanding so have we tried to get through it all a former surgeon who is now a full-time author publisher and president of bold stroke books she has over 50 published novels of her own as well as dozens of short stories she’s been a finalist and won the lambda literary award in romance many times a member of saints and simmers sis sites and simmers a member of saints and sinners literary Hall of Fame she’s been an independent publishers Award winner several times and the list just goes on please put your hands together for the incredible  Radclyffe I sound standing how are you right click good morning I’m really well thank you and hello to everyone I’m really happy to be here all right you know it’s an absolute treat to have you on I’m really grateful that you agreed to come on the show because I know it’s early for you as well it’s what do you say about 8:00 in the morning is it and that’s eight in the morning and bright and sunny over here it looks it now for everyone who’s listening where are you recording from where can everyone find you at the moment where are you New York in the u.s. very lovely and we might hear some did you say some birds in the background all my roosters and chickens are out running around right outside the office building and they’re pretty noisy this time of day now we met very briefly at GCLs this year back in July and got to catch up with you yeah just briefly an you signed a book which was lovely and I asked Radclyffe if she’d like to come on the show because when I started this show back goodness it was July last year so it’s a little over a year ago I wanted the the goal for me was to help people recognize how wonderful they are and in this world we all struggle time to time to find so you know we have self-doubt and self-acceptance and I wanted to host a show to share all of the wonderful information that I’ve learned throughout my life from great mentors and and so on and help people seize opportunities in their life and grab the goals and I also wanted to celebrate women leaders and trailblazers and folk who have been paving the way and you  Radclyffe are one of those individuals so it is fantastic to have you on and you know without further ado let’s get stuck in now will obviously get onto your boots because just going through that accolade is absolutely impressive but it’s also I mean I’m really interested to know about how it all started and because you’re a former surgeon as I mentioned was that your dream to be a surgeon dream to be a writer how did it all start back there what did you study just start right at the beginning okay well the beginning I guess I would be about eight years old about that time I’ve always been a reader since the time I was you know obviously old enough to carry a book around and my mom has pictures of me when I was like 2 with you know the little golden books that kids we called them golden books over here they’re like you know books for children but by the time I was 8 I had started reading just about everything I could find and I had read this book it was called dr. Kate and it was one of those biographies for kids that you could get out of the school libraries and it was a story of a female doctor who lived in the probably early 1900’s in the American West and basically she was one of the first female doctors it’s a true story actually and she did house calls and went from farm to farm and family to family and I thought that was really amazing and by that time I knew that there were certain things I really liked I loved everything about school didn’t matter what it was English history math science but I really loved math and science a lot and I knew that I wanted to do something like that and when I read that book that’s when I decided that I wanted to be a doctor and I never varied from that from the time I was literally about eight I knew that’s what I wanted to do and Wow the idea of being a writer never ever occurred to me I grew up in a little town in upstate New York fairly small the village was about 10,000 people it was rural but we lived in the town and when I was growing up I’m a baby boomer so that kind of dates me and there were a lot of options that were obvious for girls in terms of what you could be when you grew up and there were certain things that I couldn’t quite see myself doing and one of them and not to belittle or put down any sort of career choice but I tried to envision myself in my mom’s life and my mother was an amazing woman and but she was a homemaker and that was everything that was important to her was taking care of the home and I tried to see myself doing that and I couldn’t quite make that picture because I just and I think probably as eight years old you know and I didn’t have any idea that I was actually a lesbian but the pictures around me didn’t fit and I was looking for a picture that did fit and this book gave me that picture and from there that sort of defined everything that I became so I went to college I went to medical school and I became a surgeon because that was the the image that fit me growing up that made sense to me for my life and I never thought about being a writer because those pictures weren’t available to me I didn’t know anyone or couldn’t conceive of anyone who did that as their as their life’s goal no one ever said you know this is something that you could do or you could be I love to write I wrote stories from the time I was 10 years old for my own amusement I was not a solitary kid but my my brother is 10 years older than me so I kind of grew up a little bit on my own I had friends but I also spent a lot of time in books so I wrote stories with girls as the heroes and I wrote science fiction I wrote plays I wrote all kinds of things just because it was fun and because I would create these worlds where I could see myself in ways that I couldn’t see myself in the world around me and eventually as I grew older I began to write stories about women loving women because I wasn’t seeing those stories either but it never still occurred to me that I would share those stories with anyone else they were just for me they were kind of a way that I could create the things that I wanted to see or experience or feel and by the time I actually became published I had eight completed full-length manuscripts that I had written over a period of probably 15 years Wow that’s absolutely I’m in that journey is incredible it really is listening to what you’ve got to say in what were my first off you’re a very driven woman and you know that’s very that’s very evident to have a vision and a goal from reading in the book and then follow that journey through I mean that season the day that’s taking opportunities that’s you know pushing yourself to what you want to do but so then in the background still right so you’ve got that creative flow or gene or desire to write to express yourself in that way don’t you know to fulfill whatever needs you have so back in the surgery days did you love the surgery I loved I loved being a doctor when I first went to medical school my vision in fact was that I would become a family practitioner like I had read about dr. Kate but it like so many things until you experience them you don’t know if the fit is actually quite right and it wasn’t for me I’m the sort of person that likes to impact my environment directly if I can and that my first day on surgery I realized this is what I wanted to do because it’s very direct you do things you touch people you actually physically intervene in what’s happening so for me there was no delay but mean what needed to be done in doing it that’s the surgery is is a form of action so I loved everything about being a surgeon the I probably well I don’t know I don’t know if I would have retired when I did I practiced after my training for 20 years Wow in the United States unlike many other places in the world medicine is delivered a lot differently and there’s been a lot of changes happening here in the US in the last 20 25 years in terms of how people actually receive medical care and there’s a lot of control that’s been taken away from the medical profession and given over to insurance companies and third parties and the gist of it is is that we lost a lot of the control over caring for patients and it was really for those of us who had come from a time when we didn’t have to get permission to treat people it was a very difficult change I can imagine yeah it was it was really hard for me to make that adjustment and at about the same time I was writing more and I had begun to publish so my careers were starting to intersect and overlap so I actually was still practicing full-time when I started publishing and what I had been publishing full-time for about five years so I was actually doing two full time jobs I was writing full-time and I was practicing surgery full-time and at just about that point where everything was intersecting my spouse had finished her postdoc and had accepted a position in upstate New York and we were living in Pennsylvania so we needed to move and that was the perfect time for me to basically retire from surgery and I started the publishing company at the same time and basically retired from one full-time career and then now I have two other full-time careers as a publisher and an office so it was a perfect storm it was just the right time for all those things to happen but that’s incredible perfect time but you also leads that way as well because had you not written your stories leading up to that you might not necessarily been in that’s it I’m sure you would have got yourself there because like I say you do you know what you want and you seem to drive that way which is incredible so and listening to what you have to say as well going from having that hands-on that control and actually having an immediate impact within the surgery days so then having the less opportunity to I supposed to make good almost and to do you know good within the world you naturally then drive with the writing which is then having an enormous impact within community and within people’s lives so actually you’ve gone from one good delivery straight into another one when I say straight it’s a lot of hard work it didn’t happen overnight absolutely I mean it’s fabulous really really admirable very inspiring and so many Caesar day opportunities they’re so bold stroke books was born at the end of the surgery and why did you go into a publishing house why did you want to develop the publishing house because it didn’t exist at the time or no well I had had both strokes I started bold strokes books in July of 2004 okay at that time I had had experience with various types of publishing models my first book was accepted for publication in 2000 and published in 2001 that was with Renaissance Alliance publishing and regal crest they’ve several there was a subdivision of regal crest enterprises and I had no intention of publishing I think as I mentioned I had written these books but I really hadn’t planned on publishing anything and in the late 1990s I got very interested in x-files fan fiction and I started writing fanfiction online which is the first time that I had ever actually shared my writing with a larger you know population beyond my you know best friends which would have been like two people experience writing and sharing my work and then I developed a website and put some of my original fiction which wasn’t fan fiction on my website for people to read and that’s how I got published because several publishers contacted me and said we would like to publish this book that you have online and I wasn’t entirely certain that I wanted to do that because this was an entirely different way of presenting my work and it also meant giving it over to a different process you know giving up some of the control over my work being published necessitates giving up a little bit of control but I decided to do it and I’m never been sorry that I did it was in really incredible experience and I learned a lot about publishing and I also learned throughout those first few years what was possible and what was potentially possible if things were a little bit different and what I wanted to do in establishing bold strokes books was to establish a publishing company that used a mainstream model and all of the tools that were available to mainstream authors to promote queer fiction I felt that the we still weren’t reaching as much of the audience as we could because we didn’t have the infrastructure to do that and that was my desire was to make a company that basically could use all the tools that were available to other publishing houses to get our authors the kind of exposure that they deserved so that’s why I started the company that’s always been our mission if you will and so far 15 years later we’ve been doing pretty well at it well 15 years I mean that’s a fabulous number as well that’s absolutely brilliant and I think it’s fair to say certainly from what I see on the internet and you know engaging in conversation with readers you’ve had a huge impact in people’s lives from the books that you’ve written plus obviously with the publishing house as well enormous change around that time in terms of what you’ve delivered out to the community what’s been made available and also given focus sense of inclusion I suppose or I’m okay belong I can identify with somebody how does that feel it must blow your mind sometimes well I’m constantly amazed I mean being an author is a very solitary process because most of what you do you do by yourself you know there’s this old saying that you know you work on alone in a room and you do whether it’s a mental room or a physical room it’s a very solitary thing and then somehow what you produce goes out and you don’t know where it’s going and you don’t know who’s gonna receive it if anyone’s gonna receive it is anybody gonna read this and then you discover that people do and that you get very personal emails and messages from people and every time I do and it’s been years and hundreds perhaps thousands of messages it’s like the first time it’s like this is amazing I mean someone someone one individual somewhere read what I wrote and it meant something to them and every time that happens to me it’s like this touch it’s like this direct communication between myself and another human being and that’s amazing for me it’s a lot like what surgery was it’s a very intimate process I love that connection actually they just made and you can see it the the hands-on what did you say earlier is having the touch and being able to intervene and being involved and it’s exactly the same for you now I love that absolutely fabulous and how have you found the change in I suppose the the volume I suppose of less fake their different type of books that we’ve got going out now and the the variety and the the greater inclusion as well which is necessary with over the 15 years you must have seen quite a lot of change it’s it’s been amazing really the volume well publishing nothing happens in isolation and and everything is connected the greater publishing world has changed tremendously over the course of the last 15 years I mean technology has changed how we deliver content has changed and along with that how we deliver how we interact with the community what people are interested in reading what they demand to read all of those things have gotten bigger and I think that what’s impressed me the most is not just the volume but as you said the diversity I think that our literature and this is really essential I think for us to remain viable has to change as our as our society changes as our culture changes as what we are doing as a community changes so that now we’re seeing this explosion of diversity within our work and I think that’s because turn on the television read the newspaper look at a magazine you know read something online everything is connected and we have to be responsive in terms of what we write in order to reach people about the things that really matter in today’s world so yes there’s been tremendous changes because socio-culturally everything has changed so quickly really has in such a short period of time amazing so what we’re writing is more diverse our subgenres are very diverse now there are things that are that we write that we’re not being published 25 years ago because these are the things that people care about and are interested in and we’re responding to that it’s a it’s a symbiotic association between who reads and who writes and and what we communicate communication and that connection as well so going back to your earlier days in the the emails that you’ve you got I suppose in terms of the social media and how all that works now it’s an entirely different way of communicating with the reader and the conferences and the GCLs is of this world which are great how do you find those I suppose they’re an integral part of writing and distributing now as well there’s nothing more enjoyable to me than then speaking face-to-face with readers I mean I think that is still without a doubt the most fun thing to do yeah this is I mean what we’re doing now is very much an extension of that process absolutely yeah there’s an exchange of energy that happens when you talk to the people that are actually reading what you write and are responding to what you’ve written I always like to ask people you know try to always turn it around and ask the readers what they want to read or what interest them because I think it’s it’s a two-way street you know I think that there are writers who write because they like to write and but there are when you become a published author you have to start thinking about the audience at the other end and it adds an entirely different dimension to your process so that it’s not just about you anymore it’s about you and the reader it becomes a two-way street so knowing what readers how they feel and what they think about that that inspires as well as helps to shape sometimes what you’re doing so I I love face to face events I think they’re really important and on that how do you find your inspiration for books is it based on your own experiences or a little bit of interaction or well I couldn’t possibly write anything that didn’t interest me so everything that I write it’s some kind that I want to explore and it’s usually a relationship that I want to explore because everything that I write I write romances which are basically stories about interpersonal relationships that’s what a romance is it’s the story of people connecting to people which is why I write them and it doesn’t matter if it’s a paranormal romance or a sci-fi fantasy romance or a contemporary romance it’s about people and that’s what interests me every book that I write it’s about a relationship that I’m interested in exploring and I do certainly pay attention to what readers seem to be interested in but I don’t write just because someone else wants to read it I have to write it because I’m interested in telling that story so that’s how I kind of decide what I’m gonna work on no I get that you’ve got to be passionate about something haven’t you otherwise it’s not going to translate you’re not going to feel the emotion it doesn’t come through if someone writes a book just because they think it’s going to quote-unquote sell it usually lacks something there has to be an element of personal passion injected into a work in order for it to really resonate I think with readers at the other end I mean that that’s what readers are looking for is that emotional connection and if you can’t get that into the book it’s just it could be the most perfectly written book in the world but perfect writing does not make a great story you’ve got to have the emotion yeah now I see that okay so you mentioned in terms of genres romance is your definite I mean that’s  Radclyffe romance you’ve we’ve got that wax you did that so well the paranormal loved those as well I loved the fact that the the area that the Wolves lived in is actually a real place which I discovered when I was visiting the States absolutely fabulous but you mentioned sci-fi earlier so you vote sci-fi is that something you would ever look to explore or go into all well I think about it now and then but you know it’s really hard to write writing sci-fi is a real challenge and because you’ve got to create an entirely different world and there’s a lot of technology associated with good science-fiction and I think paranormal probably is is far from the real world I’m gonna go because I just don’t think I don’t think I have quite the experience in reading or probably imagination to do really good sci-fi but I love reading it yeah I’m much more towards the fantasy paranormal side of things in terms of what I feel comfortable writing and on that do you see yourself writing some more I mean you were under different pen names I wrote the paranormal romances as LL Rand because at the time I had written probably 35 romances either romantic intrigue or contemporary romance as  Radclyffe and I knew that writing paranormal was going to be a fairly big departure in that a lot of readers don’t cross over some a lot of readers are not interested in reading paranormal so I didn’t want someone to pick up a novel by me and find out that oh it’s a completely different kind of book and and not like it at all I try not to laugh I’m just imagining that one page you’ve got – ooh I have readers tell me straight up that’s not why I read  Radclyffe and I’m not gonna read them and it’s like okay I get that I totally get it I understand it I knew that was going to be the case but I also didn’t want to like send a book out there under false pretenses so what we did was we I changed the my pen name but we published with the cover  Radclyffe writing as so that my readers who would cross over would know it was me but the readers who didn’t want to read paranormal wouldn’t pick up a book they didn’t want and feel that you know they they’d purchase something that they didn’t want to read someone’s put their own cover on the  Radclyffe back yeah it’s as to be as I totally expected they sold quite a bit less than my contemporary romances or my romantic intrigue because there are just different genres sell differently some some genres have much larger reading population than others but that was okay I anticipated that and actually over time they backed over a lot longer than normal they’ve reached practically the same level you’re listening to the Lisbon talk show the lesbians will choke on your hub of podcast information for you what was the easiest book that you found to write out of your I mean you’ve got so many can you even think about one book well I can tell you right off none of them are easy I think my earliest books were easiest because I didn’t know very much at the time an expectation maybe it’s not that I really wrote instinctually I didn’t I didn’t think about the process as much as I do now and I think that that’s good and bad I think that knowing more about writing helps you write better books but I think it also slows down your process because you’re thinking about the writing more than just writing most people commend that you should write your first draft without thinking about anything just write it out as fast as you can don’t worry about whether it’s garbage or not and then go back and that allows you to sort of like be as creative as possible without imposing structure on the work I’m sort of halfway in between because that process itself doesn’t work for me I I really don’t have time to write a crappy first track I I actually have to write a really solid first draft because if you write a lot you don’t have a whole lot of time to go back and rework a draft three or four times so my process is slightly slower because it’s a lot more structured than it was at the beginning so the early books loves melody lost love Sandra Warriors was probably one of my easiest books to write because I was writing a martial art story and I was training at the time and a lot of it was based on what I was actually doing so that one was pretty easy to write but I think they were also easier because I was a lot less sophisticated in my writing at the time you know I got a change this time goes on I mean if you don’t change you’re not learning anything quite if you don’t read what you’ve got to change I mean we were just talking earlier about the the world itself it’s evolved you have to move along with it I totally agree every authors books if you go back and look at their first books they’ll be good if they’re good authors but they won’t be as good as what they’re writing and today because we all improve if you’re working on your craft you’re gonna get better as time goes on and on that how many books you write to you then I have been writing three full-length novels a year up and Wow this year I only wrote two in a novella so I wrote slightly less this year but I have written currently actually over 60 so I’ve I haven’t really slowed down much but I’ve given myself a little more time between books that submit it’s absolutely amazing and and now can we talk very quickly about the rwa the Romance Writers of America you recently was it the trailblazer yes yes absolutely amazing congratulations for everyone listening how important is that award in terms of community acknowledgement/recognition and what that is to the bigger LGBTQ community well Romance Writers of America is the largest the largest organization in the world which which exists to support authors romance authors there that is their entire goal it’s huge their annual meetings are probably four or five thousand people the organization itself is I don’t know ten thousand maybe more they have chapters throughout the world and it’s a mainstream organization and when I first started going which was probably 2006 I think there were no LGBT publishing houses recognized by the rwa and bold strokes was one of the first and you basically have to go through a process to prove that you’re a legitimate publisher and that you you know take good care of your authors and they look at your contracts and a whole lot of things and I was really really pleased for them to recognize bold strokes books as a you know an rwa publishing recognize publishing house and I was kind of like this invisible person when I first started going I felt it was really important critical that LGBT authors that that the authors that I was going to publish had every advantage that any other author in the world had that we deserve to be at the big table with everybody that plus we are a niche in the sense that we are a genre that almost stands outside every other genre you know some people say is lesbian romance a sub-genre well yes and no because lesbian romance covers every genre we have contemporary romance and paranormal and sci-fi and fantasy and and every genre under our umbrella so it almost puts us you know in a separate column but be that as it may I wanted our authors to have the same kind of recognition and the only way to do that is to be part of the bigger publishing world so I continued to go and participate and I was on several panels over the years and eventually became a little bit more visible and part of the organization I did not expect to have to be recognized this year the rwa has made a huge push towards diversity to be more inclusive in terms of gender in terms of race in terms of the works that are recognized the authors who are recognized and this year they made an enormous push to to really create more visible diversity and they the MC Sarah MacLean contacted me in June and said that they wanted to recognize not just individuals but entire groups of authors who had not been recognized by the organization or by the greater publishing world including LGBT authors and so she asked me if I would speak and that you know that that’s how it came about honestly absolutely fantastic I listened to your speech I thought it was marvelous really very inspiring and I think listening to what you’ve just said then as well and I totally agree with you lesbian fiction was– it’s a you know it covers many genres but it’s almost looked at independently it shouldn’t be you know the fact that it’s two you know women laugh and women or whatever the story line might be is or it should almost be incidental to the main genre and brought in so I totally agree with you and it’s fabulous that it’s being recognized and you know you’re paving the way in that sense so congratulations thank you absolutely amazing right okay here goes some fun and interesting questions for you what’s the last book you read okay let me see that would have been yesterday which one – Oh JD Robb vengeance and death nice lovely okay and what do you like to do to unwind jigsaw puzzles do you like success Oh totally I always have one going always right really yeah I’m just linking the surgery pieces going together what is your favorite color red now you exercise we mentioned earlier I don’t know if it was off the podcast or in the podcast what’s your favorite what do you enjoy – exercise – you run or what do you like to do my I guess I do run and that’s my favorite form of exercise because it’s the most efficient the one I enjoy the most is anything on the water I have a kayak I have a single person open water skull so I like to to paddle and be on the water yeah you Nabal to where you live we have a lake house it’s an hour away so in it’s on a very it it’s on Lake Champlain which is a huge lake in New York which actually extends all the way to Canada but where our house is it’s on a little estuary so it’s very secluded it’s in the Adirondacks I can see Sylvan and the where’s right across the water it really is surrounded by Adirondack forests and we have 12 acres of forest and lakefront so it’s very secluded sounds delightful yeah okay and from your books this might be a tricky one because this is like choosing children but what’s your favorite or do you have a favorite couple everybody asked me that and I never have an answer because I don’t really you know they’re all when I’m writing them they’re my favorite couple because they’re the ones I that I am most intimately related to right at that moment in terms of the easiest couples to write are the ones I know best I mean I just finished another in the honors series and Blair and cam are really easy for me to write because I know them really well I mean someone asked well how do you keep the characters straight and I admit that I forget things like eye color not theirs but when I’m writing like a follow up I might forget eye color or hair color but I don’t forget their personalities they are as I could write a sequel to any book I’ve written and I would know those characters right away so I don’t actually have favourites because they’re all alive for me and hang out did you just say you’ve written another on a book I did and it’s gonna be released when in November oh wow the cost of honor that’s gonna make a lot of fake happy it’s a big it’s a big book it’s actually a triple cross over there are a lot of Justice Series characters in it because it takes place in Philadelphia and so the Justice characters have a very large part in it there’s a cameo with ellaktor bow from trauma alert so it’s kind of like I I just decided if I was gonna set it in Philadelphia where I had multiple series I was going to bring it all together how fabulous oh that’s gonna make a lot of people happy I hope so because it told me it was really hard it was like I didn’t see but if there’s ever gonna end there was so much story going on oh that’s brilliant oh I should have asked you earlier then what was the most tricky but I suppose I would try to bring books together and that’s out November lovely yeah and now you mentioned forgive me is it chickens or roosters you’ve got both okay do you have names for them all no there’s too many now I have I have over 50 birds so I don’t name them they’re mostly all you know all the Roosters end up being named drew and the chickens I don’t name I do have goats and they all have names I have seven goats and they all have names and I have cats and they have names and dogs and horses and they all have names but not the chickens too many of them yeah but can you tell us some of the gates names let’s see there’s Gabriel Annabelle Gracie Finnegan Maisie Evan easer and Pablo I love that most of them some of them were named I get them from a breeder who is actually a nun at a convent down the road Wow they support their convent by breeding cashmere goats whose fleece is actually cashmere so every spring we comb our goats out their fleece is cashmere in which the nuns then spin into cashmere wool is that is that cool or what wow that’s amazing and today then sell it on order or delay yes so that goes into the community fabulous love it that is absolutely amazing yeah it’s pretty neat there are really cool goats too they get off fluffy and when you feel them you can feel the cashmere in their fleece it’s amazing Wow I love it the right touch right okay I asked everybody these two questions what’s the last image you took on your photo stream on your phone my chicks I have 17 small babies now that are five weeks old so I’m always taking pictures and boring all my friends brilliant that’s so cute yeah I have a lot of my children on so same thing and what is your but well you might not use these but what is your most used emoji the the little wry face that no one’s been able to figure out if it means they’re about to throw up or they’re drunk it’s the new it’s a new emoji you know the one it’s got the really weird grin that one oh the weakly face oh I like that one yeah I think it’s quite expressive I like that oh good I think of Radcliff every time I look at that one now this has been delightful thank you so much so to wrap it up and since this is a Caesar day theme and you know your life is there’s so much evidence within your life of how you’ve grabbed opportunities and you’ve taken advantage and you’ve pushed through a level of confidence maybe or just direction in terms of what you’ve you’ve known you’ve wanted to do for all of our listeners and the listeners on Caesar day what advice would you give them in order that they can go out and seize the you know every Cup goal sees an opportunity something they’ve wanted to do all their life maybe write a book maybe do a parachute jump what kind of advice would you give them if they’re lacking a bit of confidence or just to go out and do it well I won’t be disingenuous enough to say well you just have to try because if people do try all the time and and can’t always accomplish it I think one needs support I think that sharing your dream is maybe one of the first steps in that in order to sometimes in order to accomplish a dream you need to be encouraged from outside yes you have to try but I think you also have to explore all the avenues there may be there may be routes you haven’t taken and I think that sharing with the people close to you what you really care about and what you really want may help you get the support you need to get there you know I love that and what I love about this show when I ask everybody this question everybody comes to it with a slightly different angle and I think what you’ve just said there’s very important because we have these goals we have these visions we have these dreams and sometimes you can verbalize it and someone might just have a tiny suggestion or a thought on it that can literally just then send it atmospheric almost will really help you along the way so then that’s fabulous a bit of advice and it helps you almost process sometimes as well I like that I like that a lot where can everybody find you  Radclyffe website Twitter Instagram my facebook which is just  Radclyffe I don’t know what it is I’ll put it in the show notes my website is red Fick comm our ad fic comm is my website and bold strokes books comm is our publishing website and all my books are there and if I could remember how you found me on Facebook I could tell you that because I have a wall and I communicate with people there but I don’t know how you get there oh all in the show notes don’t you worry that’s that’s priceless I love it that’s brilliant yeah thank you so much for joining me this has been a real pleasure thank you so much it was great and thanks to everyone for listening I was gonna say exactly the same thing thanks everyone for listening take care look after yourself keep well you have been listening to seize the day now all contact information can be found in the show notes together with any links to websites or may have referred to in the show if you’ve enjoyed this podcast then come talk to us up a lesbian talk show chat group on Facebook email us on podcast at the lesbian talk show calm or follow us on Twitter at lesbian talk show you can also join our community of 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